Chris Sonnex is Artistic Director and Joint CEO of Cardboard Citizens, a company that makes theatre for social change. In this half-hour interview he speaks to Rachael Williams, Chief Executive of Streetwise Opera, about the obscene increase of poverty and homelessness; the pettiness of organisations that make art inaccessible and that refuse to open up what should be civic spaces; the toxicity and awfulness around the trans issue; the fact that there was a floppy-haired person in charge of us that didn’t want to play by the rules…